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Anonymous Anonymous
1 decade ago Jul 07, 2008 12:49pm
Anonymous Anonymous
1 decade ago Jul 07, 2008 2:25pm
Joonas Lehtinen
1 decade ago Jul 08, 2008 5:41am
Joonas Lehtinen
1 decade ago Jul 08, 2008 6:58am
Anonymous Anonymous
1 decade ago Jul 08, 2008 7:15am
Joonas Lehtinen
1 decade ago Jul 08, 2008 7:27am
Marc Englund
1 decade ago Jul 10, 2008 7:45am
Anonymous Anonymous
1 decade ago Jul 10, 2008 8:20pm
Jouni Koivuviita
1 decade ago Jul 20, 2008 4:32pm
Houman Atashbar
1 decade ago May 29, 2009 7:23am
Dmitri Livotov
1 decade ago May 29, 2009 7:38am
Joonas Lehtinen
1 decade ago May 29, 2009 8:05am

Dmitri L Livotov: Why not just to use GWT for this ? It's API is quite fine for quick application building. The only thing, I suppose, is to make Vaadin UI components available for easy client-side usage, but as they depends on datasource linking and lazy loading mechanism and thus server-side, this might be a not an easy task.

I think this is just what Jouni was proposing. Building an independent API for Vaadin client-side widgets has been on our TODO for a (too) long time. Unfortunately it is a non-trivial thing to do. Some of the more complex components (like Table) should be redesigned to support use without server.

While I would love to see this done, I find it more important to get more good Vaadin components that to make the current ones useable "without" Vaadin.

Back to hosting: Currently the only free Java hosting service (to my knowledge) is Google AppEngine. We are working to get it supported: http://dev.vaadin.com/ticket/2835

Amazon EC2 is currently a perfect hosting place for "serious" Vaadin apps. For example http://demo.vaadin.com/ is running on EC2. The only problem with EC2 is that the smallest unit you can buy is one server - costing 70 USD / month...

We are eager to hear about Suns cloud offering next Monday - I hope they will have more sane session management that Google AppServer and could sell smaller pieces of servers than Amazon.

Henry Hagnäs
1 decade ago May 29, 2009 1:18pm

houman001 : Has anyone tried GoDaddy's Deluxe plan that costs 6.64/mo?
This is the cheapest plan in which support for Java is included.
I used to know people (especially in the united states) who were using GoDaddy.

There are very little details on the GoDaddy-site on the extent of the Java-support they deliver. Have you found any more details about it?

One cheaper and more lightweight alternative to EC2 is using a virtual private server which GoDaddy does sell, personally I use Linode for my personal small projects and I can definitely recommend them if you have experience with Linux.

The problem with Java-hosting is that it requires abit more power and flexibility than most cheap shared-webhosting people can offer.

Ville Mattila
1 decade ago Jun 01, 2009 5:27am
Dmitri Livotov
1 decade ago Jun 01, 2009 10:38am

Will add my 2 cents. We're using Gandi (www.gandi.net) for both production and test(pilot) web applications hosting. Gandi provides Xen-enabled personal virtual server (like Amazon does) but automates process of installation and configuration via its Gandi AI feature, which makes server setup and OS installation/configuration easy and completely automated. Since Gandi sells so called CPU units, it is possible to make low budget servers for as low as (approx) 10 usd/month or so, increasing the power / memory on the fly when necessary, which suits well for demo/low footprint web apps.